I voted for Nader in 2000

This isn't a confession.  I'm not ashamed of my choice and I'm not going to apologize for it.  But things have changed, and they've changed in ways that I don't know that I can fully articulate, though I think most of us know.  If I'd lived in a swing state, I probably would have voted for Gore, but in Vermont I had the luxury of making a protest vote.   The electoral college map wasn't going to change. Vermont was going to go for Gore no matter what I did.  If I'd lived in Florida, Ohio, New Mexico or New Hampshire, I would have voted for Gore.  I didn't have to make that choice.

After the fold, I'll talk a bit about the decision processes that go into this and why they're relevant to 2008.  For those of you in Vermont, the first few paragraphs will be familiar to you.  For those of you who don't, you'll learn some very strange things about the way we choose a governor.

To explain this a little further, I didn't cast a protest vote in our Governor's race.  [Warning: obscure Vermont political rules follow].  In Vermont, we had a 3-way race between Howard Dean who, at the time, was a bit of a weak Democrat (I like him a lot better now, which is a whole other story), and he was running against a right wing loon (Ruth Dwyer) and Anthony Pollina, who was a lot more openly left-wing than Dean was.  I wanted to vote for Pollina, but Vermont's got odd rules.  If any candidate for Governor doesn't meet the 50% vote threshold, it gets kicked to the legislature, and there was a good chance we were going to end up with a Republican legislature: it was the election right after civil unions were enacted, and there was a short-lived right-wing backlash which lasted a single election cycle before reversing itself.

So there was this genuine risk that if Dean got 49.7% of the vote, we could end up with Ruth Dwyer as governor and I thought that as much as I liked Pollina, I just couldn't take that risk.  So I voted for Dean.  He got just over 50%, and I'm glad.  The second place (Dwyer) got around 35%, so yeah: good choice.

And I think that, given what I knew and understood at the time, both Dean and Nader were, in Vermont, good choices.  It wasn't because I liked Nader.  I've met Nader.  He's a jerk and a bit of a self-aggrandizing fool.  I was voting for the Green Party, which I'd previously respected a great deal.  Now it's a bit of a joke, which sometimes happens to political parties.

You might ask why I had such trouble voting for Gore.

The answer is really simple: the death penalty.

I have serious problems supporting any candidate who supports the death penalty.  This is a major problem for me, and still continues to be one.  It gave me trouble when I was supporting Dean in 2004, and it continues to give me trouble with just about every candidate I come to support.  Very few of them are anti-death penalty and I find that unconscionable.

But I have to let it go, for one specific reason: it's far better to have a candidate who supports the death penalty than to have one who supports the death penalty and will help to overturn Roe v. Wade.

It's infinitely better to have either Clinton or Obama than to have McCain on just about any issue you can measure, whether or not any of these candidates support the death penalty.

It's so much better to have a Democrat in the White House than to have McCain in the White House.

In 2004, when I was a bit disgusted with Kerry, I voted for him.  I didn't make a protest vote.  I wasn't happy with him being the choice, but I accepted the choice of one of the weaker candidates, and let it go.  I wasn't happy with the way he slimed Dean, and I wasn't happy with all sorts of things he did.  I even refused to work for his campaign, though I did work for anti-Bush groups.

But he got my vote.

I don't think I even have that much luxury any longer.  I don't think I can sit this next election out and only cast a vote.  I don't think Obama is the best choice we could have made for a nominee, but I don't think Clinton is either.  

I voted for Nader in 2000, and I'm not sorry about that, but I'm not voting for a non-viable candidate again.

I didn't work for Kerry in 2004, and I'm not sorry about that, but I'm not sitting back and letting other people do all the work this time.  I don't have the luxury to sit this election out and let it go without my involvement.  And this goes even if Clinton manages to pull off some sort of insane upset at the convention.  Would I be angry?  Oh yeah.

But I'd still work for her campaign.

I am going to do what I can to take down McCain and take down every last vestige of this sewer of an administration.   There's a really big cesspool in D.C. right now.  It's time we clean up all the toxic runoff that's coming from Crawford.

It's going to take a long time, and we all need to see to it that this clean-up effort starts on Wednesday.



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You have my admiration. (none / 0)

And my rec.


by NeverNude on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 07:54:23 AM EST

Re: I voted for Nader in 2000 (none / 0)

nice personal diary


by swissffun on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 07:58:03 AM EST

Re: I voted for Nader in 2000 (none / 0)

Well, I voted for Gore, for all the good that did (I live in Kansas).
Good diary, I'm ready to move ahead, as well.
I'm a Democrat before I'm a Hillary supporter, and the Democratic nominee will have my complete support.
by skohayes on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 08:37:27 AM EST

Re: I voted for Nader in 2000 (none / 0)

are you a strong HRC supporter?  Do you believe in her positions and policies?  Do you also believe her when she states she will back the Democratic nominee and urges her supporters to do the same?

what things do HRC & McCain share?


by colebiancardi on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:09:05 AM EST

So I'll get over this? (2.00 / 1)

Great.  That makes me feel better. Not.  I'd like to make my Obama-loving colleagues cry.  But no matter what, he has my vote.  The war against John McCain has begun.  I'd rather the Dittoheads and McCainiacs cry more.

It's time to defeat John McCain and his army of Social Security and SCHIP dismantling wingnuts to go to hell.

Democrats rock (even if I don't really feel it right now).

Fuck John McCain and his trophy "I'm too busy shredding tax returns so I'll just pull recipes off the internet for my ancient family cookbook" wife!


Linfar's co-blogger opposing John McCain
by psychodrew on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:40:12 AM EST

Works for me (none / 0)

Great.  That makes me feel better. Not.  I'd like to make my Obama-loving colleagues cry.  But no matter what, he has my vote.  The war against John McCain has begun.  I'd rather the Dittoheads and McCainiacs cry more.
I'm fine with this.  I don't blame anyone (on any side) for being angry with how things have gone.  There's not a campaign in this race that hasn't royally pissed me off at some point or another.  

I've never, ever had my first choice become the nominee, so I'm probably a lot more experienced with this sort of thing than some of you, but you know, primary races are never fair.  They're never completely democratic, and they're never satisfactory to everyone involved.  

When primaries are settled by June, we all have time to sort through the frustration that follows from this.  When they don't get settled until August, I'm a lot more concerned about the damage that will do to the party, and I'm not convinced that anyone who wants this to go to Denver is honestly interested in defeating McCain.


I'm only a click away
by juliewolf on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:25:10 PM EST
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Hey drew (none / 0)

you have my respect for being able to see the forest for the trees.  Big props to you, and you are right about John McCain in every way.  I also thank you for doing your part to bash John McCain every time you link to him you punch him in the stomach.

Oh and John McCain opposes Roe V Wade (there I got in my bashing)

One last thing, I'll do another SEO update tonight to see if there is any daily progress.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 02:03:20 PM EST
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Re: Hey drew (2.00 / 1)

I'll check it out!

Hey, did you know that John McCain wants to destroy Social Security?


Linfar's co-blogger opposing John McCain
by psychodrew on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 05:12:00 PM EST
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